Wrong Place, Wrong Time?
Oct. 23rd, 2003 09:17 amYou ever get the feeling that you're not where you're supposed to be?
I've been getting that a bit, lately. Had a conversation with
dsudis the other day on this topic. She noted, not for the first time, that my chosen associations seem to include a great number of liberals and non-Christians, and that this could be troublesome for the moderate-to-conservative Catholic that I am. Of course, I've already noticed that to be the case over the years.
marnan and I used to have epic (or so I remember them) arguments about all manner of things relating to our wildly differing views on just about everything.
So, with the notable exception of my journal post of last week, I've been trying more and more lately to avoid discussing contentious topics, no matter how much I may disagree with the local consensus. But I still find myself on the "wrong" side of discussions and arguments, more often than not finding myself being ganged-upon. It happened last night (of course, this isn't out of the blue) in a chat with other aspiring genre author types. I stated an opinion, not that unequivocally, which I didn't think would cause that much of a stir... yet I suddenly found at least five people arguing with me, denouncing me (by way of my opinion) as backwards, narrow-minded, etc.
And for the most part, this was my response: ...
Ever try to argue with five people in a chat, simultaneously? Friggin' impossible.
And that's not the first time it's happened. So, naturally, I wonder if there's something wrong with me, or is it just that I see the world in such a way that pisses off a large number of people. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I can't count the number of times I've been in a situation where people expected there to be something resembling a consensus opinion, or common knowledge, and I was the odd dude out.
Am I in the wrong place? Should I eschew SF/F fandom entirely? I know I felt like turning my back on it last night. But, then what? How pathetic is it to feel like an outcast from a group traditionally on the fringes of society? So it's either back to the mainstream (no thanks), or I join the general trend of internet groupings and see if I can find My Particular Niche Group.
Off to find my niche, then, I guess. Wish me luck.
I've been getting that a bit, lately. Had a conversation with
So, with the notable exception of my journal post of last week, I've been trying more and more lately to avoid discussing contentious topics, no matter how much I may disagree with the local consensus. But I still find myself on the "wrong" side of discussions and arguments, more often than not finding myself being ganged-upon. It happened last night (of course, this isn't out of the blue) in a chat with other aspiring genre author types. I stated an opinion, not that unequivocally, which I didn't think would cause that much of a stir... yet I suddenly found at least five people arguing with me, denouncing me (by way of my opinion) as backwards, narrow-minded, etc.
And for the most part, this was my response: ...
Ever try to argue with five people in a chat, simultaneously? Friggin' impossible.
And that's not the first time it's happened. So, naturally, I wonder if there's something wrong with me, or is it just that I see the world in such a way that pisses off a large number of people. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I can't count the number of times I've been in a situation where people expected there to be something resembling a consensus opinion, or common knowledge, and I was the odd dude out.
Am I in the wrong place? Should I eschew SF/F fandom entirely? I know I felt like turning my back on it last night. But, then what? How pathetic is it to feel like an outcast from a group traditionally on the fringes of society? So it's either back to the mainstream (no thanks), or I join the general trend of internet groupings and see if I can find My Particular Niche Group.
Off to find my niche, then, I guess. Wish me luck.
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Date: 2003-10-24 05:55 am (UTC)Secondly, there are those people who are always going to be the square peg to everyone else's round holes. Even those who are supposed to be square will find this person more rectangular than square like them. Those people usually find that everyone else is angry at them for not being like them. It very well may be that you are one of those people. I can't say one way or the other since I don't know. What I can say is that those 'odd shaped" people are usually the catalysts for change in either beliefs or ideas because they never settle for the response 'we've always done it this way' or 'just because'. Those people are necessary if there is to ever be growth and change. Unfortunately, they often have few friends in the other groups of thinkers.
Perhaps you are around these other people who are so unlike you because you enjoy the challenge of trying to sway them to your way of thinking. However, from what I read, I think it may be that you search for honest discussion and exchange of ideas between individuals. Whatever your reasoning may be, the painful fact is that it is often going to make you odd man out.
I agree with the other respondent that you need to cultivate more people who are like minded, if not on every subject at least on several. That's not to say you should leave your friends who are different, but that it would be a lot less rough on your self esteem and your confidence if you could converse with people who said "I agree" to your statements more often than "No, you're wrong".
I think with the great number of people on Lj that you most likely can find a community or group of individuals that match most of what you're looking for. However, if you want to start your own community, I'm sure there's someone with lots of Lj codes still unused on your friends' list. It just may be that you're left with no choice but to create your own niche, but that's not such a bad thing.